No balaclavas during winter in Quebec if you want to ride transit

[Sundancefisher]

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/m...iqab-1.4356263

When my bus shows up late...I am frozen already and bus has no heat I am not taking off my warm clothes.

This law should fail.

If you take an oath or need to confirm who you are by facial recognition I see no issue with having to take it off.

But a bus ride. Silly.

[Ken07AOVette]

Originally Posted by Sundancefisher

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/m...iqab-1.4356263

When my bus shows up late...I am frozen already and bus has no heat I am not taking off my warm clothes.

This law should fail.

If you take an oath or need to confirm who you are by facial recognition I see no issue with having to take it off.

But a bus ride. Silly.

You are moving to Quebec?
When's the last time you took a bus?

I have zero issue with someone having to show their face on public transit.

[Fisherpeak]

You can`t wear a hoody on the job site here even if the wind is howling and it`s -25. They say it restricts your vision. Then the safety dick gets back in his warm rig and watches to make sure you suffer.

[riden]

This law is destined to lose a Charter Challenge in a slam dunk manner too.

Why do governments pass laws they know will lose a very expensive Charter Challenge What a complete waste of tax dollars.

[silverdoctor]

Originally Posted by riden

This law is destined to lose a Charter Challenge in a slam dunk manner too.

Why do governments pass laws they know will lose a very expensive Charter Challenge What a complete waste of tax dollars.

Canada's Charter of rights and freedoms is part of the Constitution Act of 1982 - which Quebec never signed. They have their own Charter of Rights.

http://legisquebec.gouv.qc.ca/en/showdoc/cs/C-12

[riden]

Originally Posted by silverdoctor

Canada's Charter of rights and freedoms is part of the Constitution Act of 1982 - which Quebec never signed. They have their own Charter of Rights.

http://legisquebec.gouv.qc.ca/en/showdoc/cs/C-12

Quebec has lost its fair share of Charter Challenges. Canada's Charter still applies

[bobinthesky]

Originally Posted by riden

This law is destined to lose a Charter Challenge in a slam dunk manner too.

Why do governments pass laws they know will lose a very expensive Charter Challenge What a complete waste of tax dollars.

Well duh... why do you think they need more of our tax dollars? Gotta keep the lawyers employed you know.

[The Spank]

Originally Posted by Fisherpeak

You can`t wear a hoody on the job site here even if the wind is howling and it`s -25. They say it restricts your vision. Then the safety dick gets back in his warm rig and watches to make sure you suffer.

You can wear an FR hardhat liner or FR balaclava. Works well for this safety dick.

[play.soccer]

Originally Posted by The Spank

You can wear an FR hardhat liner or FR balaclava. Works well for this safety dick.

Neither of those fully stop the wind from going down your neck. Hoodies work better. Lemme guess you like fecto goggles too?

[bubba 96]

Originally Posted by play.soccer

neither of those fully stop the wind from going down your neck. Hoodies work better. Lemme guess you like fecto goggles too?

fr dickie, balaclava over top, problem solved, not many job sites let you use hoodies, as the not only restrict view, also and catch and hang..

[The Spank]

Originally Posted by play.soccer

Neither of those fully stop the wind from going down your neck. Hoodies work better. Lemme guess you like fecto goggles too?

Actually I do not and do not think they should be used!!!

[Newview01]

Originally Posted by Ken07AOVette

You are moving to Quebec?
When's the last time you took a bus?

I have zero issue with someone having to show their face on public transit.

X2

Use the public system, follow their rules.

[riden]

Originally Posted by Newview01

X2

Use the system, follow their rules.

Just to point out. It's a public system, that means it's as much yours as theirs.

[bobtodrick]

Originally Posted by riden

Just to point out. It's a public system, that means it's as much yours as theirs.

Really...so if you want to take a leak in the corner you think that is going to fly?
Just as with hospitals or any other 'public' space rules can be set and implemented.

[gmcmax05]

Originally Posted by riden

Just to point out. It's a public system, that means it's as much yours as theirs.

LOL, your tax $$, their rules.

[Bigwoodsman]

Originally Posted by Newview01

X2

Use the system, follow their rules.

This or take shanks mare. The world as we knew it has changed, and not for the better. This is the new reality that we all are going to face. Get used to it!

BW

[Sundancefisher]

Originally Posted by Ken07AOVette

You are moving to Quebec?
When's the last time you took a bus?

I have zero issue with someone having to show their face on public transit.

Everyday. I am a transit commuting dude.

Hate commuter traffic

Also know some buses and trains some days have no heat. Coming from standing out in minus 35 than getting on a bus that is minus 25.

I am not taking my balaclava off. Never asked to. Never will. They can call the cops and watch their stupidity on the news.

[Badgerbadger]

Originally Posted by Ken07AOVette

You are moving to Quebec?
When's the last time you took a bus?

I have zero issue with someone having to show their face on public transit.

How about guys with beards? People wearing makeup? These, too, interfere with facial recognition.

What next? Pants-too-baggy/skirt-too-short regulations?

It's a stupid law.

[agentsmith]

I'll just leave this here...
https://niqabsofducanada.tumblr.com/

[Okotokian]

Mixed feelings on this. I think public servants should show their face. Not good with a female cop or teacher or nurse just showing her eyes through her niquab. This is about normal human contact and interaction in our society. It's also about the message sent about women's rights in this country. What message does a young student get about being a woman from her teacher in head-to-toe covering, including her face? That you should hide yourself? This is a medieval belief system.

On the other hand, I absolutely do not think that a tax-paying Canadian citizen, regardless of their dress or beliefs should not be able to get the public services they paid for and are entitled to. HAVE to be able to ride the bus, go to the hospital, etc.

Overall, I can't see this legislation standing.

[Looper]

Originally Posted by Badgerbadger

How about guys with beards? People wearing makeup? These, too, interfere with facial recognition.

What next? Pants-too-baggy/skirt-too-short regulations?

It's a stupid law.

Neither of those cover your face completely.

You actually needed that pointed out?


Looper

[stuckincity]

Originally Posted by Badgerbadger

.....skirt-too-short.....

No such thing.

[CaberTosser]

I've noted this story on here before but it warrants a repeat. I was at a 24 floor condo tower trying to find a substantial leak that was affecting suites below and I had to run quite a number of floors before narrowing the source down to two floors. The occupants of the two possible source suites were not home (or so we thought despite frequent and assertive knocking and verbal requests) so building management arranged a locksmith to come out. The locksmith, myself & one of the building complex's security guards were all together for making entry. Upon making entry to one suite it was aparrent the that people actually were there as there was shuffling and noise when we opened the door, and the three women there had to 'burkha' up at our arrival. They were alarmed as none of their men were around and here the three of us were. The place was extremely sparsely furnished and so far as I could tell no men lived there (no men's shoes by the door, etc); so far as I could tell it was a middle eastern trick pad or similar. Those women were not free, I doubt they were even allowed to leave without being escorted by a male. Having worked at that complex very regularly for 3 years at all times of day and night I never once saw them save for the time we were in their suite. That's not normal, nor is it what Canada is about.

[CMichaud]

The CBC is beside itself.

The Liberal Government has been keeping their hands out of it thus far.

If Harper had remained silent it would have been front page Conservative bashing non-stop.

[260 Rem]

If the bill is about the display of religious symbols and applies to all ...including the garb of some orders of nuns, priestly collors, cross-type necklaces, “Hutterite” / Amish / .... garb ... then I could get behind desecularizing public services. But, given that the Quebec bill “seems” to target one faith, it seems wrong and will likely be rightfully tossed by the courts.
Circumstance (time and place) should be the overriding principle for imposing a face recognition requirement.

[58thecat]

Quebec is turning into nazi Germany...no soup for you...wonder why the Montreal Canadians suck....subjected to this province I would relocate like the expos did....